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David Kang
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Posted - 2009.01.17 21:31:00 -
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Edited by: David Kang on 17/01/2009 21:32:56
Edited by: David Kang on 17/01/2009 21:32:15
If were going this route then we also need to look into a meta government. this also solves the growing idiocy problem.
good post so far 
I will think of some really good examples and will update later.
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David Kang
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Posted - 2009.01.19 17:50:00 -
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Edited by: David Kang on 19/01/2009 17:57:15
Sorry but i have to jump into this thread its too damn good
Ok here are my points for Arcology
Firstly i read the posts above mine and both argue about taking up space.
Just out of interests why don't you build it underground? and with the material removed reuse it to build mountains and planet a forest on top of the building (its underground remember)
Secondly Geothermal energy could provide heat removing the need for Heating.
Also if you incorporate a huge hole in the centre of the structure that sun light can enter you still get natural sunlight entering the building that could also be moved around the building via mirrors (thank you Egyptians!).
Also building deeper underground you could build a nuclear facility safely so if damage or leaking occurs it will not be a huge threat to life or the environment (it will be in a concrete coffin deep underground)
This also reduces the change of damage and also on the point of contamination, that why you use set procedures and a very Exact lay out plan. (ill load mspaint up in a min to show you what i mean.
Also building underground reduces cost (no need for those expensive cranes, and because of mining for coal we have plenty of experience making huge hole underground. we know how to earthquake proof them and also protect them from water and collapsing.
Think out side of the box people :)
btw Celeste Coeva and culmen please keep up the good argument!
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David Kang
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Posted - 2009.01.19 18:07:00 -
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Edited by: David Kang on 19/01/2009 18:14:54
Edited by: David Kang on 19/01/2009 18:07:35
 Originally by: Celeste Coeval
Edited by: Celeste Coeval on 19/01/2009 17:58:17
Originally by: David Kang
Edited by: David Kang on 19/01/2009 17:54:59
Edited by: David Kang on 19/01/2009 17:54:23
Edited by: David Kang on 19/01/2009 17:52:58
Sorry but i have to jump into this thread its too damn good
Ok here are my points for Arcology
Firstly i read the posts above mine and both argue about taking up space.
Just out of interests why don't you build it underground? and with the material removed reuse it to build mountains and planet a forest on top of the building (its underground remember)
Secondly Geothermal energy could provide heat removing the need for Heating.
Also if you incorporate a huge hole in the centre of the structure that sun light can enter you still get natural sunlight entering the building that could also be moved around the building via mirrors (thank you Egyptians!).
Also building deeper underground you could build a nuclear facility safely so if damage or leaking occurs it will not be a huge threat to life or the environment (it will be in a concrete coffin deep underground)
This also reduces the change of damage and also on the point of contamination, that why you use set procedures and a very Exact lay out plan. (ill load mspaint up in a min to show you what i mean.
Think out side of the box people :)
btw Celeste Coeva and culmen please keep up the good argument!
I am aware of all these options. Another location is the ocean using vast turbines in the base of the structure to catch the passing currents. Glad to have you aboard the thread:P
Glad to be aboard and aye i am pro Arcology  If it was upto me each person once they turned 16 would be tested for job qualities, interests and social groups and be put into there own structure of the very same people as themselves.
Geeks in one, Goths into another, sheeple in another etc.
Then from there you cater the hole centre around the social groups jobs.
Science and technology and engineering for geeks,
Social studies, music and arts for the goths and related etc.
Idea being you live in a Arcology were your job, interests and people are all like you.
But then i guess this is moving deeper.
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David Kang
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Posted - 2009.01.19 21:49:00 -
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Originally by: Cmdr Sy
Originally by: Celeste Coeval
economists need to learn to subtract
So do utopians. Building a huge giant thing with massive resource inputs is not going to solve any problems. Plan cities have been epic fail through the ages, doing it on an even more grand scale is unlikely to reap rewards.
depends who designs it, man or the machine.
Evolutionary algorithm
If we want to take this route with the thread i will 
My money is on the machine making its perfectly efficient or at least 99.9%
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David Kang
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Posted - 2009.01.19 21:54:00 -
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Edited by: David Kang on 19/01/2009 21:58:14
Edited by: David Kang on 19/01/2009 21:57:48
Originally by: Cmdr Sy
Or we could all live on gigantic floating lilies made of steel, growing hydroponic weed for a living.
I take it the idea of living in a steel jungle isn't your idea of living? next you will be telling us you have technophobia, Future a scary place for you?
Each to there own 
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David Kang
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Posted - 2009.01.19 22:06:00 -
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Originally by: Eran Laude
Originally by: Cmdr Sy
Or we could all live on gigantic floating lilies made of steel, growing hydroponic weed for a living.
It's been considered
I would prefer to live on one of those actually . . .
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David Kang
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Posted - 2009.01.21 16:48:00 -
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Edited by: David Kang on 21/01/2009 16:51:17
Originally by: Culmen
An Arcology would wind up quite like the pyramids. Gigantic, marvelous to behold, a wonder of mankind's ability, But ultimately useless to day to day function once the original purpose passed. After all, what have the pyramids done for us recently?
1, Inspired a generation`s of Archaeologist
2, Through there construction spawned new tools and innovations that we take for granted today in the modern world.
3, provide a revenue from tourist from all over the world.
4, provide us with an in-depth history of our past in the modern world which would of been forgotten.
5, provide inspiration for movie`s and programs (Star gate sg1!!!!!)
Not bad aye? so what do they do for us even though there use has passed away 
If an Arcology project finally pass`s its time it can be recycled OR refurbished for a new purpose.
Not all of humanity will fit into one of these as population expands BUT they do increase efficiency and with only a hand full built in country will help reduce some waste.
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